Bloggers Unite: What America Brings the World

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you have posted an important topic, one that most people choose not to pay attention to and don't think about. i agree with you that our track record as a country is not a good one of late, and i sincerely hope that our next president does a much better job.

that said, i don't think that barack obama can say yet what he does and does not support. neither can hillary or mccain. i hate to say this, but until each one of them walks in the shoes of the president (which, i suppose, one of them will), it's hard for them to know exactly what each would do. do i think that any of them would brag about their position on torture? no, of course not. but like the rest of us, we never know how we'll react until we are forced to.

trying to unite...

You're right, in that what they say now is not necessarily what they will do, later. One has to look at their record of doing what they say. If they tend to change position a lot, then you can't take what they say at face value. If they tend to stick to their principles, what they say can be taken more seriously. If you like what they say and they tend to adhere to their own stated principles, making decisions based on what they say is more reliable.

Besides, if we can't make our decisions based on what they say, we might as well just flip a coin.

if we can't make our decisions based on what they say, we might as well just flip a coin.

sometimes, that's exactly how i feel! (okay, maybe that's how i feel OFTEN.) shame.

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It's too bad the U.N. doesn't step up more often on these issues. I think donating to AI is a good choice. There must be other orgs as well, is the ACLU doing any good? We'll see if Obama steps up to the plate, but as you pointed out, we need a world leader for the world's bullies.

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I was so shocked when I first found out we had prisons in other countries and we are holding all these people with no proof of any wrong doing. It is insane. Must be stopped. Thanks for posting these horrible things our current administration is still doing. It sickens me.
You know I always love a thought-provoking post. One question- are you familiar with the Military Commissions Act?
Not in detail, but I know it's the Act that allows the military to try suspected enemy combatants in a secret military Tribunal instead of an open civilian court. It's entirely unconstitutional, but hasn't been overturned, yet.
...and it removed habeus corpus, the right to a speedy trial. People have been detained for more than two years at Gitmo without ever being able to go to trial. It's more than unconstitutional and I can't believe Congress signed it. Kennedy made a feeble attempt at asking that habeus corpus be put back in, but when Bush said 'no,' he signed if anyway.

According to Wikipedia, Kennedy's amendment would have outlawed waterboarding, and an amendment from Arlen Specter and Patrick Leahy would have preserved habeus corpus. Robert Byrd tried to put in a sunset clause. None of the amendments passed.

Most of the Republicans voted for it, and most of the Democrats voted against it, but there were a few that crossed party lines both ways. How any of them could have voted for it is truly beyond me.

People are really and truly' terrified 'of terrorists. No joke- that scare campaign worked well, even on people I consider intelligent. then there are those senators who vote as their constituents want at the moment. if that had been put to the American people at the time it was passed, there is a good chance most would have believed we were 'safer' with it. (some still do)There are also the groups who believe their politicians in the same way they believe in their religion. They can't seem to differentiate between a belief in God, where the only possibiity is to have faith (or not) and a belief in a politician or a political party.To put the same kind of faith in a pollie it can be fatal. So this is mind-boggling to me that people do it all the time.

Anyway, I hope you and Stix enjoyed your holiday.

As an outside looking in I'd like to make the following observations.

Your system of voting encourages many millions of people not to vote. That, in turn, paves the way for the relatively small number of people who care and have a social and moral compass, to make themselves heard. However, it also pits them against the extreme factions of the Left and Right, both of whom are menaces to peace. The extreme Left will not be satisfied until America has been run roughshod over by every petty dictator with a whim, and the extreme Right seem hell-bent [ :-) ] on speeding up a nuclear Armageddon and fulfilling what they mis-characterise as biblical prophesy.

The extreme Left are smart enough to make insidious headway; the extreme Right appear incapable of stringing a coherent sentence together unless it's "We got bombs". Both are intellectual and moral cripples and are not only the sleeping enemies embedded inside America, they are the destroyers of peace. "We have seen the enemy and it is us" [Walt Kelly - Pogo] could well have been penned as a warning to all truly patriotic Americans about extreme factions.

Here's what a rather famous Republican had to say:

"Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right."

I think it's a call to real American patriots to protect yourselves, to use another famous term, "against all foes, foreign and domestic". Debate is often hijacked and twisted to support hatred of Muslims, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, Gays, name-your-prejudice, when a better warning might be issued against the real menaces who constantly stir up hatred. Your media is full of daily examples of their arrant nonsense; so full, it's easy to blind the true and reasonable American patriot into believing your own home-grown extreme factions are somehow saviours when observably, they are the opposite.

Similarly, the sheer volume of unsupported pop-psychology weakens the individual and collective ability to take responsibility and consider consequences. The real America is being throttled by your own extreme factions. Please deal with them while there are still countries in the world who respect and support America.

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The man who in times of popular excitement boldly and unflinchingly resists hot-tempered clamor for an unnecessary war, and thus exposes himself to the opprobrious imputation of a lack of patriotism or of courage, to the end of saving his country from a great calamity, is, as to "loving and faithfully serving his country," at least as good a patriot as the hero of the most daring feat of arms, and a far better one than those who, with an ostentatious pretense of superior patriotism, cry for war before it is needed, especially if then they let others do the fighting."

"What is the rule of honor to be observed by a power so strongly and so advantageously situated as this Republic is? Of course I do not expect it meekly to pocket real insults if they should be offered to it. But, surely, it should not, as our boyish jingoes wish it to do, swagger about among the nations of the world, with a chip on its shoulder, shaking its fist in everybody's face. Of course, it should not tamely submit to real encroachments upon its rights. But, surely, it should not, whenever its own notions of right or interest collide with the notions of others, fall into hysterics and act as if it really feared for its own security and its very independence.As a true gentleman, conscious of his strength and his dignity, it should be slow to take offense. In its dealings with other nations it should have scrupulous regard, not only for their rights, but also for their self-respect. With all its latent resources for war, it should be the great peace power of the world. It should never forget what a proud privilege and what an inestimable blessing it is not to need and not to have big armies or navies to support. It should seek to influence mankind, not by heavy artillery, but by good example and wise counsel. It should see its highest glory, not in battles won, but in wars prevented. It should be so invariably just and fair, so trustworthy, so good tempered, so conciliatory, that other nations would instinctively turn to it as their mutual friend and the natural adjuster of their differences, thus making it the greatest preserver of the world's peace. This is not a mere idealistic fancy. It is the natural position of this great republic among the nations of the earth. It is its noblest vocation, and it will be a glorious day for the United States when the good sense and the self-respect of the American people see in this their "manifest destiny." It all rests upon peace. Is not this peace with honor? There has, of late, been much loose speech about "Americanism." Is not this good Americanism? It is surely today the Americanism of those who love their country most. And I fervently hope that it will be and ever remain the Americanism of our children and our children's children."

– Carl Schurz, The True Americanism, April 18, 1859

13th United States Secretary of the Interior – Republican.

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