Kandahar An Amen?

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How utterly disgusting, abhorrent, despicable, and hideous. Words utterly fail me, as does humanity on the whole.
I think it's really important to remember that a MAJORITY of people on this earth find this behavior to be completely disgusting.

These men are sick creatures. They barely pass for human. If you can inflict that kind of harm on a creature that your God made (and lets remember, they do attempt to hide behind religion) you don't deserve to be considered human. They are monsters.

We'll always have these "people" though. What they are doing is similar to how minorities were treated in our own country and how minority groups were treated during world wars.

I, personally, have no idea why we cannot learn from the past and stop repeating the failings of past generations.
I did hear this story. And saw pictures. It's horrible. There are no words to convey my disgust.

I think it's really important to remember that a MAJORITY of people on this earth find this behavior to be completely disgusting.

You're right, of course. This is not normal human behavior; it is the lowest outlier. It is very important to remember that, or you get all cynical like me. :->

i did hear about this - there are no words bad enough - and i've been reading other articles - articles about Iraq - and similar beyond crap treatment of women - saying that this kind of thing is only going to get worse, not better - no thanks to the US - i can't stand it

'no thanks to the US"

What do you mean, N?

ah - hey Patricia:) - i've been reading a lot of articles on what's been going on with women in Afghanistan and Iraq since the U.S.'s occupation

In their quest for stability in Iraq, U.S. officials have empowered tribal and religious leaders, Sunni and Shiite, who reject the secularism that Saddam Hussein once largely maintained. These leaders have imposed strict interpretations of Islam and enforced tribal codes that female activists say limit their freedom and encourage violence against them...

the article i linked to above the snippet tells about an enormously brave Iraqi (activist/journalist) woman working to better women's situations in Iraq - might want to take a deep breath before reading...
Sh*t. Thanks. (sigh) I'll read it as soon as I shore myself up....
[this is good]

Ugh. Bloody psychos.

Some amazing people fighting against this kind of crap in Afghanistan though - even more amazing when you think about what they are up against.

Paikea, it's true, but then the U.S. has always laid down with dictators if it would shore up our own position. For all our talk of wanting to bring democracy, it seems we frequently work against democracy in the interest of brokering power networks.

That being said, women have been better off in Afghanistan since the Taliban was removed from power. The same cannot be said of Iraq, where women were more or less free under Hussein (other than the ones his sons took an interest in and had hauled off to the rape rooms), and now are being forced back into their religious cages.

yes, the US always does what's in its own best interest - totally agreed

not entirely sure about the improvement of women's positions in Afghanistan, though - here are the two of the latest articles i've collected - most of which seem to vacilliate between only slightly better and not at all...

Women's lives worse than ever
Women under siege in Afghanistan



That first one's pretty horrific. If anything, however, the picture I have of the situation in Afghanistan (though clearly from reading various news reports and not from any first-hand knowledge) is that the situation for women is varied now, with some women still living lives of desperation. The fact that some girls even can goes to school, however, tells me that at least for some conditions have improved. Under the Taliban, girls and women weren't even allowed to leave the house.

Let me clarify one thing, though, about my statement concerning the U.S. pursuing its own interests. Our government (and by extension, me and my compatriots) pursues what the current leaders at the time think is our interest. Traditionally, we've been very shortsighted when considering what our interests are, and much of that has come back to haunt us.

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