Might-Have-Been Worlds

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Paxton: I have a "Might-have-been" quote that has stuck with me since High School (you know, when those nasty dinasaurs were always trying to break into the school grounds and carry away some lunch! Although why I say that, I don't know. I'm only 42. Lol. I guess because High School really is a lifetime ago). Anyways, the quote that stuck with me was:

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"I'd rather be a *has-been* than a *might-have-been*, by far

For a *might-have-been* has never been.....

While a *has-been* was an *are*."

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Just something that came to mind when I read your little blip on the Daily Neighborhood Update email that said, "Daddy, what is a might-have-been?"

You know what? I think I'm going to put that on my Home Page. Thanks for bringing back the memory. And like I said before, it's so nice to see the cute little face again rather the nasty character photo you had posted during the Christmas season. I'm glad you had fun with the production, and I wish you many more such experiences. It's good to get out of oneself and become a totally different person for a change.....as long as you DO come back. Lol. Take care.

This totally reminds me of an older sci-fi book, about multidimensional travel in a specially equipped car. The driver would rotate several knobs and at first glance, never moved from inside the garage. Except someone made note that after one such shift, the letters of the alphabet were different on some drawer labels in the garage. Will have to go find that story again and let you know.

Very interesting note about Schrodinger's cat too. Must give more thoiught on that later.

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Totally recommend this t-shirt.

I like that. It's like a little poem.

it's so nice to see the cute little face again rather the nasty character photo you had posted during the Christmas season.

Ha! Thank you. I've had a couple of comments like that, so I don't think I'll be using pics of myself in stage makeup for my avatar anymore. :-P

Please do, that sounds like an interesting story! It's actually a very common concept in science fiction, but I always like parallel universe stories.

That is good! For a long time, Strix was signing off her emails at work with this:

"Honey, what did you do to the cat? It looks half-dead!" - Mrs. Schrödinger.

We've got a long way to go yet before we'll know if all of quantum physics is a might-have-been world. All of it is theory and nothing is tangible. We can see, hear, taste, touch, and smell everything involved in Newtonian (classical) physics, but drop below the sub-atomic line and it is all dreams and shadows. Because we have atomic clocks and atomic microscopes, people just assume that we've seen an atom, or it's particles, and have watched how they behave. Not true. It's all based on "if"s. If an atom has a nucleus with X amount of particles, then Y will happen if I perform Z within the laboratory. The theory was tested, it worked, and the theory held. Then Einstein came along and pointed out that what we'll conclude from an experiment depends on the theory from which we derive the experiment, which in turn lead to Heisenberg's theory of uncertainty extending to the outcome of the experiment depending on who is doing the experiment.

Quantum physics is better defined as metaphysics, which opens up a whole new can or worms, or cats, if you will :-) It goes beyond the world of the physical and into the theoretical and philosophical, wearing a lab coat rather than a tweed jacket with patches at the elbows. We have seen atomic bombs explode, and we can rely on atomic clocks, but how and why the bombs have exploded and the clocks keep ticking is still just a theory that the majority of those in the field agree on in this time and space....which is a continuum:-)

I've always found it a bit odd that the supercolliding-superconductor--designed to split the neutrino, which was thought to contain the face of god--placed a massive hole in the ground and was well on its way to the final stages when world events pulled money away from the project, stopping it in its miles of dug tracks. Despite the pleas of international physicists for somebody, anybody, to fund the project, the money wasn't available. Perhaps there are some lines we are not allowed to cross? Perhaps artists are the ones who cross those lines, see and know, then come back to tell the tales in metaphors?

We've got a long way to go yet before we'll know if all of quantum physics is a might-have-been world.

Indeed, one of the problems with MWI is that it is fairly untestable. Scientifically speaking, that's a very bad thing for a theory. On the other hand, applying it to classical quantum theory cleans up the math nicely, which is one of the measures used for good theory in this area. It makes Occam's Razor happy. Still, it will never be accepted by most physicists until it can be demonstrated more directly, and rightly so.

All of it is theory and nothing is tangible.

Tangible or not, all science is theory. The concept of a theory is that it is a set of hypotheses that explains observable data. As new data is applied, and the theory continues to explain it (and preferably, predict it) accurately, then the theory holds, as you point out. Otherwise, it collapses and has to be replaced or modified. Science is an incremental process toward greater knowledge. The fact that we cannot see atoms and electrons doesn't mean they don't exist. While theories evolve over time as new data is uncovered, we know that something makes my computer run and the lights turn on when I flip the switch. Current theories calling for the existence of electrons work very well to explain electricity, and has done so very well for quite a while.

Besides, I've never been to Peru. To me, Peru is intangible. Should I assume that it doesn't exist until I actually set foot there? There is plenty of indirect evidence of Peru, so I think I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.

Quantum physics is better defined as metaphysics... It goes beyond the world of the physical and into the theoretical and philosophical....

I disagree. The difference between quantum physics and metaphysics is that quantum physics still relies on measurable events. This isn't just guys sitting around thinking and doing everything on paper. Theories are tested by using them to predict what will result form various experiments, and while we cannot see elementary particles, we can measure the effects of them, making QP just as much a physical science as biology or meteorology, both of which often deal with phenomenon which have to be measured by effect rather than directly.

Another difference... practicians of metaphysics don't know what calculus is, let alone how to use it in the pursuit of their philosophies. All theoretical physics is mathematically based. Philosophy is not, beyond basic logic arguments.

The fact that many people apply concepts of quantum theories to philosophy, often to humorous effect, doesn't make the theories any less scientific.

I've always found it a bit odd that the supercolliding-superconductor--designed to split the neutrino, which was thought to contain the face of god....

I'm not even sure what that means... except that supercolliding superconductors can possibly provide clues into the origins of the universe by measuring (see? observable) the results of experiments done with elementary particles. That freaks a lot of people out, though I don't know why it should.

Perhaps artists are the ones who cross those lines, see and know, then come back to tell the tales in metaphors?

Personally, I would much rather my doctor have a degree in medicine than philosophy. It is poetic to think that our bodies are full of "humors" that effect our health, but germ theory was much more useful for attacking diseases, even before we had the technology to view bacteria and viruses directly.

As much as I appreciate and even participate in the art of the written word, poets and artists will never hold a candle to science for gaining knowledge of the physical world. The reason is that science is based on rationality and measurement of observable data, peer reviewed, and revised over time to match reality. Art just has to effect people, and it doesn't take much looking around to see that people believe lies all the time.

I think the only thing that lack of funding for science shows is that we'd rather spend money on conquering and dominating other countries than gaining answers about the fundamental questions of the universe. After all, the Bible already tells us all we need to know, right? Might was well spend that money on blowing people up, instead. Now that's tangible.

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Might I recommend you read The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene? It contains one of the best explanations of quantum theory I've ever read. The book is very readable for non-physicists and non-scientists like yourself. I dare say his writing is downright poetic.
Thank you, I'll be sure to check it out!
facinating

I adore science fiction and read the golden compass (and rest of the series).
I am much more likely to take my spoon full of physics if its sweetened with fiction!

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This post deserves scrutiny. I am back online after a two week-holiday and a 36- hour power outage. Will write a thoughtful reply tomorrow. Happy New Year!
Thank you! Happy New Year to you, too!
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I enjoyed this post very much! Thank you!
While I read through your post and the comments about it very carefully and enjoyed exploring all the possibilities discussed in the comments, including a look at the car accident and the cool t-shirt recommendation, my ruminations on the subject are not nearly as clever as the rest of your neighbours, I'm afraid. My thoughts only went to three films that explored this subject: Julia and Julia, in which a woman inadvertently travels from one of her possible worlds to another over the Golden Gate Bridge and Run, Lola, Run, a foreign must-see, which shows how something which seems insignificant, such as a one minute delay, can alter results of any action. And then of course, there was Back to the Future Part III where the bad guy, Biff, becomes the richest man in the country due to his time-travel tampering with events that had not yet taken place. I will be discussing this with Hubs later tonight, too. He loves science fiction and subjects like this. Something else to do besides snuggling if the lights go out yet again.... : D
I haven't seen Julia and Julia, but I loved Run, Lola, Run, or Lola rennt, in its original German. As you can see, it's a common theme in science fiction and magical realism, too. MWI is a concept that may never be able to be confirmed scientifically, but it has certainly had a very positive effect on art and literature.
That's true. You might try to catch J&J. It stars Gabriel Byrne, Kathleen Turner and Sting. It has almost a dreamlike quality to it and I think it was an indy film. It's interesting enough that it's worth looking up.
Thanks, I'll do that!

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